Flaky skin! help please :) ENTIRE face flakey.
Joined: 12 Jan 2008
| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: Flaky skin! help please :) ENTIRE face flakey. | |
| ALright so i'm not sure if this is rosacea or seb derm (always thought it was sebderm but literally it is my whole face, even areas that dont really get seb derm. my whole nose, cheeks, side of face, forehead, chin, etc.) it's not really red (just the same permanent rosacea redness) but this flakiness wont go away!
So what happened was i would get this awful tight feeling where it felt like there was another layer glued on to my skin and no amount of moisturizing/anti-fungal shampoos would help. I was put on steroids, they got rid of this "second layer" within a few days, HOWEVER, since then i'm STILL flaking everywhere. NOTHING is controlling the flaking. I got off the steroids and was recently (like 2.5 weeks ago) put on Elidel to stop the flaking. I'm assuming this is seb derm right? It's just an insane amount of flaking (every morning gotta attempt to get all the tiny flakes off... although of course there's always a bit left... which means makeup = no since it just flakes off with my skin) ANY advice?! Please help guys, im totally at a loss here. |
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Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: | |
| This sounds like my face and also I was on prednisone in nov and Dec and now using elidel on my face. My chin and neck have rosacea and my nose area and the rest I believe is eczema.
Where do you live? Are you experiencing winter now? Are you in the heat? what makeup are you using? I started again with tinted moisturizer and use laura Mercier. Bonnie Sayers |
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Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: UK
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: | |
| One possible option is the n-light. This can help with seb derm (if it is that).
best wishes _________________ dx early 2006. current stategy; finacea twice a day, lightstim nightly, 5 x IPL and 2 x n-light. |
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Joined: 12 Jan 2008
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: | |
| I'm in Canada, so yes it's winter here.
I don't use any makeup because it just flakes off. I washed my face with stieprox shampoo last night, and of course, still flakey. |
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Joined: 28 Aug 2006
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: | |
| This sounds like what I have also....a craggy scale all over my entire face...yuk! I have to try to gently exfoliate every single day for years now so I can wear makeup otherwise it looks AWFUL. I have tried the antifungal shampoos too and it doesnt seem to do a thing....this has me very confused....I think it's seb derm like you but how can we know for sure...absolutely. Oil's in creams or oil's alone make mine worse....I would say my skin feels crunchy...and like I have a sunburned taunt feeling 24/7....I wish I had a solution and an answer....is it rosacea + sd or just rosacea???
NLight....could someone give me more info on this....is it similar to VBEam? _________________ Dx 1998 Many IPL TX's Tried just about everything |
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Joined: 04 Apr 2006
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: | |
| Have either of you tried something with Pyrithione Zinc in it? According to research I've been reading recently, it's the most effective against the yeast that causes the seb derm. Head and Shoulders has it, and there is a cleanser called Born to be Mild by Dermadoctor with it - made for rosacea. Have you tried either of those?
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Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Dorset, UK
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: | |
| I would also recommend Eucerin cream as it contains urea that helps allow the flakes fall off.
http://www.eucerin.com/ |
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Joined: 12 Jan 2008
| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: | |
| Unfortunately for me, p. zinc burns me like CRAZY (i tried 2% once). I'm worried about washing my face with head and shoulders cause of the other ingredients in it. I have a "smooth and silky" one in my bathroom (darn i didnt buy the original) Could i use that one?
And nope, eucerin just burns my skin too. |
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Joined: 18 Oct 2007
| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: Constant flaking | |
| This is exactly what happened to me. Woke up one morning and the skin all over my face was flaking off. A few suggestions from a fellow Canadian:
1. Do yourself a favour and buy a shower filter (its a filter that screws on right where your showerhead would be). It will make a world of difference in the amount of flaking. I got mine from a company called aquasauna (online) but I here they sell them at Sephora (online or possibly local depending on where in Canada you live). 2. I have been using 1% hydrocortisone lotion and this has certainly helped tremedously. I have been concerned about longterm use so I am continuing to try and find an alternate solution, one has not materialized yet. Several derms have told me it is safe for longterm use, even on the entire face (with the exception of the eye area and especially the eyelid which is very thin skin). 3. Find the right moisturizer, too light and it will just enhance the flaking, too oily and it will likely cause break outs and redness. Trial and error is the only method I know of here. 4. Find a good derm...if you can...good luck. |
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This is me also....zinc just doesn't work for me...never did....I never could use Linda Cy's products way back in the beginning....ZincO burned like crazy. Right now I can use Toleriance lotion....not the best....but at least it's not burning my face  _________________ Dx 1998 Many IPL TX's Tried just about everything |
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Joined: 12 Jan 2008
| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:46 am Post subject: | |
| where in canada are you jmill? | |
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:10 am Post subject: | |
| The head & shoulders I've been using is also the "smooth and silky" version.
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Joined: 18 Oct 2007
| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: Where in Canada | |
| EK1,
I am in Toronto, but from Winnipeg originally. What about you? |
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Joined: 12 Jan 2008
| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: | |
| Im from the GTA! Just curious who your derm is and if they're any good seeing as we're from kinda the same area! | |
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Derms in the GTA | |
| EK1,
Well, I will tell you I have been through about 7 derms in the last year trying to find one that actually knew their stuff. A popular prescription I was receiving from derms was topical anti-biotics mixed into a moisturizer (so not to aggravate the seb derm). Not a single derm I have met so far however actually knows how that mixture is made. In order to get the antibiotic into the moisturizer they have to dissolve it in alcohol (antibiotic powders are notoriously insoluable according to several pharmacists I have spoken to). They can use a gentler plant based alcohol but many just use isopropyl alcohol which is aggravating as all hell to skin, just imagine applying rubbing alcohol to your face. Anyway, that aside the two I would suggest you try and get referrals to are Dr. Jay Brian Taradash (he has his own clinic on St. Clair West, near Avenue Road) and Dr. Neal Shear (he is out of the Sunnybrook Hospital on Bayview, north of Eglinton). Sunnybrook actually has a Rosacea Clinic as part of their dermatology centre. I like Taradash because he is thorough, many people with Rosacea have other skin issues, so he won't just chock everything up to Rosacea, he will have you checked for allergies, etc. Even if it doesn't pan out you will feel good that no stone was left unturned. Shear is less thorough is my experiences with him (granted I came to see him after 5 prior derms diagnosed me) but his knowledge of Rosacea is better than any other derm I have met. He is also the only derm I met who has discussed treatments like oral itraconazole for seb derm or low dose accutane to treat Rosacea/Seb Derm. I could give you the list of bad derms I had to go through, but in fairness I wouldn't post it on a public access board, I wouldn't want to be seen as maligning anyone. There is certainly nothing wrong with privately emailing a personal opinion though. So if you want to avoid the duds I have seen email me at jay.416@hot.....com |
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