My rosacea ACUPUNCTURE trial... (will last approx. 10 days)
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pca_
Joined: 03 Oct 2007
Location: Denmark (North Europe)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Isnt chlamydia a sexually transmitted disease?
What is that theory about in relation to rosacea?
Ewist, those spams, do they occur while he is sending
electricity through the needles? =) Sounds nasty,
I kinda felt like sitting (or rathe rlying) in the electric
chair when he did that thing. I didnot have any spams
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melissawohl
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Joined: 08 Jan 2007
Location: new york
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hi pca,
It enters the body via the respiratory system and is different than the chlamydia you are thinking of pca. C. pneumoniae is distinct from other Chlamydia species.
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Disease Listing | General Information | Technical Information | Additional Information
Clinical Features Pneumonia or bronchitis, gradual onset of cough with little or no fever. Less common presentations are pharyngitis, laryngitis, and sinusitis. The spectrum of illness can range from asymptomatic infection to severe disease.
Etiologic Agent Chlamydia pneumoniae, proposed new name, Chlamydophila pneumoniae. C. pneumoniae is distinct from other Chlamydia species.
Incidence The overall incidence is unknown. Each year, an estimated 2-5 million cases of pneumonia and 500,000 pneumonia-related hospitalizations occur in the United States.
Sequelae C. pneumoniae infection may be associated, by some investigators, with atherosclerotic vascular disease. Associations with Alzheimer's disease, asthma, and reactive arthritis have been proposed.
Transmission Person-to-person transmission by respiratory secretions.
Risk Groups All ages at risk, but most common in school-age children. In the United States, about 50% of adults have evidence of past infection by age 20. Reinfection throughout life appears to be common.
Surveillance No national or state surveillance exists.
Trends Unknown. Improved diagnostic testing may lead to improved recognition of infection.
Challenges There is a lack of standardized diagnostic methods. Isolation of the etiologic agent is difficult, so antibody tests using paired acute- and convalescent-phase sera have been used for diagnosis. There are no known methods to prevent possible sequelae. The role of C. pneumoniae in atherosclerotic vascular disease needs further definition.
Opportunities To apply new laboratory methods to develop better diagnostic tests and to evaluate association between C. pneumoniae infection and atherosclerosis, as well as other chronic diseases.
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And from the cpn website:
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Dr. Charles Strattoni, MD, at Vanderbilt University, in a recent interview, 21 summarized his observations of some of the emerging research on C. pneumoniae. He noted how C. pneumoniae crosses from the lungs to the bloodstream via infected macrophages. The spore-like Elementary Bodies (EBi's) then circulate in the bloodstream to infect other organs throughout the body, including the liver, bone marrow, spleen, kidneys and skin.21 Potentially this might explain how C. pneumoniae, whose initial entry into the body is via the respiratory system, might arrive in the skin to cause rosacea. This may explain too the discovery of C. pneumoniae in cheek biopsy of rosacea as in the study discussed above. |
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potentially rosacea is the result of chronic inflammation caused by the persistent infection with the gram-negative bacteria, Chlamydia pneumoniae. Potentially also Cpn is capable of inducing a chronic inflammatory response that can lead to co-infections with other pathogens (h. pylori, demodex mites, s. aureus, c. albicans, etc) that may only help exacerbate the symptoms of this disease. |
Sorry ewist to have taken up your thread.
Pca, if you're interested read the thread on Cpn that I gave the link to in my previous post.
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pca_
Joined: 03 Oct 2007
Location: Denmark (North Europe)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Melissa, that is interesting. So have you had such a cheek/skin biopsy
done, and did it show any sign of this bacteria or virus?
I will ask my doctor to check for this on my skin, if there is something
substantial to this theory. |
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melissawohl
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Joined: 08 Jan 2007
Location: new york
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I am seeing my derm the 25th and will be asking him to test me and allow me to do the protocol. This theory makes sense to me and explains all the other stuff like pylori and demodex etc. Fingers crossed that my doctor will be open to this idea. |
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pca_
Joined: 03 Oct 2007
Location: Denmark (North Europe)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Good luck, and keep us updated on your findings!
| melissawohl wrote: | | I am seeing my derm the 25th and will be asking him to test me and allow me to do the protocol. This theory makes sense to me and explains all the other stuff like pylori and demodex etc. Fingers crossed that my doctor will be open to this idea. |
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